Posts by Island Man

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If An Organization Really Believed It Had the Truth...

by xjwsrock in

....it would not be scared of critics.

actually they would naturally take an offensive stance, wouldn't they?

they would welcome debate... even encourage it.

Island Man

Watchtower cannot honestly refute the claims of apostates, so they desperately resort to attempting to suppress the truth about the truth from getting to JWs by demonizing apostates and coaching JWs to censor out apostate information.

If what the apostates were saying were false, then the best way to deal with it would be to publish a book listing the specific claims of apostates and refuting each one with irrefutable facts and evidence. That would be the best way to deal with apostates, if they were lying, because it would involve inoculating JWs against apostate lies.

But Watchtower cannot do this without engaging in further printed lies, because apostates are telling the truth and truth cannot be refuted. When fighting truth the most you can hope to do is attempt to hide it and hide from it. This is why deceitful and oppressive political regimes always resort to the use of censorship - because the truths that expose them cannot be refuted. Watchtower is no different.

Truth is like an invincible warrior while the lie is like an evil, scheming weakling. A weakling cannot defeat an invincible warrior so his only option is to hide from him. And this is essentially what deceitful manipulative organizations like Watchtower do - they hide from the truth and attempt to hide the truth through the use of censorship.

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Printing presses, bye... bye...

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

bye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).

a worldly company axel s******* will be used.

this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.

Island Man

Using a "worldly" company can present some interesting scenarios. What if that "worldly" company is faced with industrial action? What if that "worldly" company refuses to print anti-gay Watchtower articles? What if that "worldly" company has ex-JW employees?

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Printing presses, bye... bye...

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

bye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).

a worldly company axel s******* will be used.

this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.

Island Man

It's just a matter of time now before the Watchtower and Awake magazines start having advertisements...

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This is Why I Will Keep Explaining Evolution to ex-JWs

by cofty in

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Island Man

Isn't it ironic that the religion that originated the Genesis creation account - Jews - has the second-highest acceptance of evolution? What does Genesis' parent religion know that the JWs and fundamentalists don't - that the Genesis creation account is myth? Silly JWs. Always listening to crack-pot Watchtower prognosticators and their warped bible interpretations while turning a blind eye to the insights of the very religion that wrote the book.

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UPDATE: My existential crisis comes to a close

by Freeandclear in

jw
friends

in case you read my other thread regarding my existential crisis and how it was making my life miserable and left me feeling hopeless, purposeless and joyless i though i'd share what's recently happened to me and my way of thinking and have i've for the time being resolved my existential crisis.

i write every day in a journal.

i've been doing this for years.

Island Man

Whatever makes you happy.

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Oi Admin

by Landy in

is it possible to tweak the software to allow a sensible way of quoting another user's post?.

when you're using a tablet or phone it's almost impossible to copy and paste - especially when your fingers are as fat and clumsy as mine.. okpleasethankewe :).

Island Man

Giordano: Now I am totally lost Island Man.

Don't worry, I used a few technical terms that you might not be familiar with if you're not into programming and html, but I'm sure Simon understands what I'm saying.

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Oi Admin

by Landy in

is it possible to tweak the software to allow a sensible way of quoting another user's post?.

when you're using a tablet or phone it's almost impossible to copy and paste - especially when your fingers are as fat and clumsy as mine.. okpleasethankewe :).

Island Man

It would also be nice if you can do a filter feature where you can filter a thread to show only the posts of persons responding to your posts - you can call it a conversation feature. You can have a label that reads: "Show conversation:" then you have a drop down box listing the user names of all posters who've posted on the thread so far together with the word "Everyone" then you have another label that says "with" then another box that again lists the names of everyone on the thread and the word "Everyone". With this setup you can then click two names from each box and see all postings on the thread that involve direct posts and replies by the two persons chosen. You can choose your name in both boxes to see only your posts. This is very helpful if you're looking at long old threads that you posted on to find your posts. Or you can choose your name and everyone to see your posts and all posts that are direct replies to your post or posts you replied to. This will make it very easy for threads where there may be a debate going between two persons and there are many other posts that they have to wade though to get to see each others replies.

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Oi Admin

by Landy in

is it possible to tweak the software to allow a sensible way of quoting another user's post?.

when you're using a tablet or phone it's almost impossible to copy and paste - especially when your fingers are as fat and clumsy as mine.. okpleasethankewe :).

Island Man

I think that's a good idea.

You click a little reply button at the bottom of a post (just left of the Like, Dislike buttons) and it copies the user's name formatted in bold with a colon, and the user's post formatted as a blockquote, to the "Have your say" box at the bottom and positions the cursor on a new line below so you can write your own reply comments. If you select a small portion of the user's post before clicking reply, then only that small portion is quoted, maybe with "..." before and after to indicate it's just a snippet.

I wish to also say that I think each post should also be bookmarked with a unique html anchor tag (you can use the user's name combined with the timeserial corresponding to the time (down to the second) of the post. That way you can also include a link in the reply post that takes you back to the source location of the quoted post that you're replying to.

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Born Twice - Die Once .... Born Once - Die Twice

by Perry in

jesus taught that we must die unto ourselves, and allow the holy spirit to take up residence within us.

some people get saved by simply inviting jesus into their hearts, to be the lord of their life.

this serves as a countering force within the born-again christian to counterbalance the will of the flesh, which is still unsaved in this life and destined for destruction in imitation of our lord himself.. attempting to live the christian life without having this spirit within you is a waste of time at the minimum, and dangerous on the downside.

Island Man

Well, I don't want Jesus inside me
Sounds a bit gay and he did hang around with a bunch of guys all the time.

Yeah it does sound gay - especially when Christians talk about Jesus' second coming and him being inside them, all in the same sentence. Jesus is inside you and he's about to come?! [Cue young, tight-pants-wearing Bapticostal minister shouting euphorically in the background]: "Yes, come Lord Jesus!"

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Do you still believe in the concept of absolute truth?

by JW_Rogue in

jws very much believe that there is an absolute truth and of course, they are the only ones who have it lol.

how about now though do you still believe that absolute truths exist?

or is everything subjective?

Island Man

Yes, I believe that truth exists. 2 + 2 = 4. That is an absolute truth.

JWs and religions in general, abuse the word truth. They throw it around cheaply, applying it to their fanciful and unproven myths and ideologies.

I have come to appreciate that truth is a word that should be used more responsibly. I have also come to appreciate that we don't need to know everything to live a satisfying life. We don't need to have answers to the big questions like: How did the universe begin? Is there a purpose to life? Why are we here? ... in order to live a purposeful and satisfying life.

Religion manufactures false needs and then proceeds to recommend itself as the avenue for meeting those needs. One of those false needs is knowledge of the Truth about big unanswerable questions like those mentioned above.